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Adding more or Relocating Recessed Lighting / High Hat Lights

It’s just so easy to add another high hat to your existing recessed lighting. Lot’s of times the builder just didn’t add enough of these or was just trying to be cheap. Well lucky for you I decided to make this video to show you just how easy it can be.

But keep in mind using a 6 3/8″ hole saw or a hole saw made just for this type of work is a big time saver. Using a knife or saw just doesn’t work out the way you think it would. I mean sure you can but why?

[toggle title=”Here’s a transcript of this video”]Hi, everybody! I’m Dominick from In this video, during our kitchen remodel here, I’m going to show you what we’re going to do. We have our high hats, our recessed lighting, up over here, which is okay for there, but unfortunately, the other side, for whatever reason, they never installed lights. Well, it’s high hats, the ceilings are already sheetrocked, which makes them a lot more difficult to put any kind of anything up in the ceiling. What you have is this 6-inch can high hat, recessed light, whatever you want to call it, for remodeling. All we really need to do is make a 6-inch hole up in the ceiling, so let’s get going and we’ll show you how we’re going to do that. Okay, I marked out where I want our new lights to be in front of our cabinets here and our other ones were on the other side of the room. What we have, something you really want to pay attention to, our ceiling joists are running this way and none of these existing lights are really in line with them, which means we have a floor joist, a 2×10 in this case, in between. So we’re going to have to get access to that, drill that out, but also, one of our older, existing recessed lighting here, we need to get up in here and take that apart so when we make a hole here, we finally get the wire over to that, we can properly tie into that. To make these holes, first mark them out wherever you want to put them. Once you make that hole—well, you have a hole. Best tool I found is a hole saw like this, a 6-inch one, makes a little bit of a mess, which we’ll see in a second, but it makes a nice, clean hole. However, one thing we really want to figure out are where exactly our floor joists are here because we can’t put a light in between them, right? We’re not going to cut up the ceiling—or floor joists, whatever you want to call it, depends on where you are. If you’re standing on it, it’s a floor joist, if it’s above you, it’s a ceiling joist, so depends on where you are. Anyway, where I marked these lights is really where I want them; however, that may not be that good of an option. Right before I go to make these holes, I’m going to find a couple of them and then go 16 on center and make sure that I’m not going to be infringing on one of them. Drill hole All right, now it’s time for us to remove our existing light. What we need to do, if you look on yours, you’ll see these little screws that go all the way around. All we really want to do is remove these where we can pull the inside of this can down and out and then I can show you what we do from there. Unscrew screws on the inside of existing can. Okay, now we got all our screws removed, we can grab the inside here and carefully pull it down. Of course, there will be a wire attached and there you go, that’s the can. Now if you look here, you’ll see a frame. You got to realize, the ones we’re putting in are remodeling ones, so they pretty much look just like this. These are new construction, which mean there’s a whole metal frame in here and there’s an electrical box in there which we’re going to have to get to. You’re not going to be able to remove that frame in its entirety, so basically what we’re going to do, we’re going to be pushing it up and we’re going to push it up out of the way of the sheetrock so we can start doing our sheetrock repair. Now what we’ve got to do, we have to get up in there, which is not always the easiest thing, and we have to disconnect our existing electrical. Again, make sure your power is off before you even did this. Okay, let’s get going. Now we can look up in here and we can see our electrical box, little tab, I’m just going to pull this little cover off. You can see up in here our electrical connections here. Again, our power is off, so what we want to do is disconnect it there and then run our wires. Fortunately, we’re taking this light out, I’m actually just moving it over. Fortunately, our wires are coming from this direction. That doesn’t always happen, sometimes you might have to do some modifications in the wire to get them to where you want, which is not always an easy thing. I’m going to start disconnecting all this, then I can bring those wires and connect them to our new can. Okay, now that we’ve got our connections made, you can see we already have two wires in here, which is actually like the wire coming from this side and one going the other direction. Make sure our clips—see right here—are folded inside the can, because this is our remodeling one, you want to make sure to get some space, and push it up. Make sure it goes in without any restriction. Like right there, the clips are not locked in, but the can is just pretty much just floating. You want to make sure that you’re not interfering. You’ve got these, you fold them in, and then you look close enough if I got it in. You’ve got a little clip right there and you just want to tighten that up a little bit, and this one, we have three of them to do, and that locks it in. Now if somebody turned the power on, put our light bulb in and turn it on, let’s see. Power is on—boom—there we go. Pretty simple. Now what we’ve got to do is get back here and do our sheetrock patch. I’m not going to show you how to do a whole sheetrock patch because I’ve got a ton of videos on how to do that, but I am going to give you two tips. The piece that we took out here, remember with our hole saw, nice and clean? Well, we’re going to put it back in there, throw a board across there so we can screw it in, but I’m going to show you a patch, which is made by a certain company, so I’ll show you, and it’s a patch that’s going to cover the whole thing and we can tape it all off, instead of going around with the paper tape, that would be a real pain in the ass. This way is much better. All right, well, we’re all done with our lights for our particular room, which is the kitchen, and I have this plugged. We couldn’t find our existing plug, so I had to cut one out of a little piece of sheetrock, that’s why it’s green, so don’t bust my ass about it being green, who gives a shit? But this is all about how to relocate the lights, not how to do a patch, but since we’re doing it, I’m going to do it and show you. This is a nice, big patch, it goes right over it, it’s all perforated, which is nice because you don’t have to really worry about so much of the build-up of dry compound, you can get there and make a big bump. Who makes these? I’m going to tell you so you don’t have to ask me a million times. Made by Strait-Flex, go to, I think even Home Depot or somebody like that, carries these things. Really cool, I use them all the time for all these things. All right, that’s how to add or relocate your high hats in the ceiling. Thanks for watching, hope you learned something. [/toggle]


Comments ( 4 )

  1. Thank you so so much. People like you is why I do this.

  2. Dom, Thanks for another fine video!!! You really deserve a bunch of credit for all the time and effort you put into these very informative videos and instructions!! Still really love the one about the easiest way to clean a paint roller with a hose (outside)!!! Thanx again, and may God bless. Bill

  3. Awesome, just in time. Thank you very much

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